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Alex Rollins Berg's avatar

As one of the very few who saw Psycho Killer in theaters, I find this discourse riveting - and coming from two of my favorite Substackers, no less.

Dane Benko's avatar

This is interesting.

I can't help but feel that for all his influence, AKW is a one hit wonder. I never found 8MM all that good .... In fact, I found it surprisingly tame and boring, too much of it Phoenix and Cage watching something off screen and yelping like parodies of dogs.... And by Wolf Man, AKW had lost me.

I also did not find The Killer very interesting, neither as a modern Le Samurai nor a parody of it. People gushing about "Fincher's tight control and attention to detail" seemed like the old paradox about, if you really loved the editing, was it good editing? (As an editor: yeah sometimes). There was one article about how it was really about "Sigma males" that justify all their weaknesses as strengths, which would comport to much of your discussion above, but even so I just don't get the point of it, particularly how after so much killing the protagonist lets off the Big Cheese with... a stern warning. Like fighting his way to Epstein Island just to say, "A-and don't let me catch ya again or you'll be sorry!" Is this purposeful or is AKW literally unable to threaten the executives?

In fact the thing I found funny about The Killer is you don't need to watch it at all. Seriously, the audio tells you the whole story, in a way beyond the rule of thumb that a good audio mix means the image can be turned off: The Killer is far more a podcast than a movie.

This conversation reminds me a lot of the movie Suspect Zero. There's sort of a want to like Suspect Zero outside the scope of Suspect Zero, because it's weird, and because it's made by the weirdo who made classics like Begotten and Shadow of the Vampire (and, personally, because it was shot in New Mexico and features Carrie Anne Moss). But is it weird because it's "good," or "has something to say" or "subverts our expectations"? Not clear. It might just be weird because Merhige believes film is Magick regardless of whether it's good, meaningful, well performed, etc so forth.

Thanks for the dialog. You two are legend.

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